May Yulblog – New Diggs

Earlier tonight was the first YULblog at the new location. Eventually I will add everyone’s names with links, but for now I need some sleep. Interesting change. Pluses and minusses on both sides. Here’s everyones responses:

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12 Comments so far

  1. Christelle (unregistered) on May 4th, 2006 @ 4:52 pm

    It was a nice evening last night, I enjoyed meeting some fellow YULBloggers!


  2. blork (unregistered) on May 4th, 2006 @ 4:59 pm

    Too bad I couldn’t make it last night. Personally, I was in favor of staying at La Cabane. Not because I like it so much, but I totally anticipated the problems that people are reporting about Laika. Too loud, not great for mixing, etc. In other words, not a great social space.

    The problem with La Cabane was not the space itself, it was the habit we got into of forming a long table against the wall. That’s bad for socializing, and isn’t very welcoming for new people. It was better when people clustered around two or three big tables.


  3. Patrick (unregistered) on May 5th, 2006 @ 9:18 am

    I’m not sure I understand how round tables spaced out makes it harder to move around than square tables spaced out or the long table along the wall…


  4. blork (unregistered) on May 5th, 2006 @ 10:21 am

    For one thing, square tables are bigger, and are pushed together. So you get 8-10 people around a table, and there’s usually room to squeeze in another one or two. When you come into a scene like that, you don’t feel like you’re intruding if you just grab a chair and pull up to a table.

    At Laika, it’s a bunch of little round tables, and if I recall correctly, you can push them together. So you end up with a bunch of pairs of people, which is less inviting for newcomers. Especially if the newcomer doesn’t really know anyone (or doesn’t know them well).

    So it’s not a question of having space to move around — it’s a question of how inviting it is to come in and sit down with a bunch of people you don’t know very well, and how inviting it is to later move to a different table of people, and then a different one again, etc. The constraints are psychological, not physical.

    BTW, the long table against the wall was also bad, and I think that contributed to some people not coming back.


  5. blork (unregistered) on May 5th, 2006 @ 10:21 am

    That should be can NOT push the Laika tables together.


  6. Christelle (unregistered) on May 5th, 2006 @ 12:35 pm

    The Laika tables could be moved around…


  7. Frank (unregistered) on May 5th, 2006 @ 1:58 pm

    I found that the tables at Cabane to be a bit imposing. But that may have been because there was very little space the first time. After the ice was broken, it was quite approachable if not still very crowded. Shoehorning in was still kinda awkward.

    As far as Laika, the loungy atmosphere was nice. I thought the tables caused people to sit fairly far from each other. Conversations were difficult without leaning in because of the music. The advantage of Laika is that it seems a bit more convertable. Chairs and tables were easy to be move around because they were light. Though if there are more people, shoehorning will be a problem there also.

    Wed night, we did have a pretty awkward period where a few people came in and we opened up a circle (without table). But the circle was too wide for a group conversations. So everyone talked to the person next to them and not across the circle.

    I hope to post pictures this weekend so everyone else will have an idea of the setting.


  8. Patrick (unregistered) on May 5th, 2006 @ 5:07 pm

    There are never group conversations at La Cabane either, not equivalent to the circle you mention anyway. I don’t see how any place would be different, short of a long restaurant table but we’re not having dinner, we’re getting a drink so noise and smallish tables are the norm.


  9. Frank (unregistered) on May 5th, 2006 @ 9:16 pm

    Patrick, that’s a good point. Even at Cabane conversations were really only between three or four people. It could have been that the circle was just a growing pain in that we didn’t know the best way to congregate. I’m sure we could find a way to make it work even with the music at that volume. For those who weren’t there, it wasn’t loud. From my point of view it was just that it could be a tad lower to facilitate conversation. Conversations progressed as they had before.


  10. Frank (unregistered) on May 5th, 2006 @ 9:52 pm

    The pictures have been posted.


  11. François (unregistered) on May 7th, 2006 @ 9:06 am

    First, I think people make the place but, for that kind of meeting Laïka is not appropriate. Let me explain, coldness of the concrete, loud music and a slow table service. (I like the cozy ambiance of La Cabane) If we miss interaction between people maybe it depends only on the personnality of each members of the group and the way we welcome the new ones.

    Secundo, I think Blork is right about La Cabane, the constraints are psychological. A reorganisation of the tables at La Cabane and a second survey may help to turn this place perfect.

    And because people make the place, I liked my evening with all of you even at Laïka.


  12. J (unregistered) on May 7th, 2006 @ 1:03 pm

    have u thought about ‘le bayou’ at rachel and st-laurent. it’s similiar in style to la cabane and is pretty cheap for the sauce and has good food.



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